government to be out of our business. if this were upheld then the government would basically be in our business 10 times more than they ever have been, correct? >> yes. but i am blown away because they are already all over our business. the precedent is this poor wheat farmer got fined for growing wheat on his own land he wasn't selling to anybody. >> bill: a case that was what? >> 1942. >> and the supreme said yes, the government has a right to fine him because his own wheat might effect the price of wheat and that's interstate commerce. >> bill: this doesn't have anything to do as we have demonstrated yard with commerce. it's a personal choice whether to purchase something or not doesn't have anything to do with it. insurance companies can't sell health care insurance across state lines. that's how crazy this thing is their argument is weak. you would agree though that the government has to provide a certain amount of oversight in the medical industry, would you not?