and i have had the opportunity to speak with friends and family members about the conversion and the conversation starts around the kitchen table with a cup of coffee and one person at a time discussing what our values were growing up in our households and in our churches. >> all right. let me go to katrina. you're back with us. she's got her cowgirl boots on. the dallas tea party. >> i want to just address something that kira said. i think she's right. we need to take some responsibility and get out there and actually deliver the message. unfortunately, i think that when people do meet us and realize we are not just mean crazy right wing extremists, they can make an exception for you. >> you are not a nut job. >> nut job, extremist, all of the above. what really needs to happen is those at the top of the republican party, they are the ones that have to make that message clear. they have to go to the