insurgency where they have ethnic russians and then she supposed to come in like the white knight to save the people and i think he overstepped himself in eastern ukraine. >> how big of a problem for putin is his reality that his population keeps shrinking? i read in some places that you suggest that is the reason he needs more territory because he needs more people. >> the russian view of what they should control goes back to the soviet days and back of the kingdom but bottom line is that russians -- according to their own statistics they only have about 2,000 new citizens last year and some say they lost half a million. just by grabbing these areas where they are ethnic russians he is picking up 2 million new russian citizens. it is part after survival mode as well. >> is he working from a soviet playbook? >> yes. soviets are famous for telling one thing while they are doing another thing and then saying no, that's not what we meant. if you watch what's going to transpire, you are going to see a lot of information, very