law enforcement officers in baltimore who have been outnumbered stood by as places were looted, who have run in the face of rioters throwing bricks at them. that is why baltimore is out of control. so you don't need more restraint. you actually need more force to control the situation on the ground and protect innocent property owners and business owners. martha: we couldn't hear end of what -- >> overnight, 200 arrests were made. arrests were made this morning. and i think, i think the situation you're right. there need to be arrests. there needs to be use of force against people perpetrating violence. >> of course. >> i think it is happening. >> we're not protecting people who are burning police cars. we have to be very clear here. we're protecting citizens of baltimore. we're not worried about people, those are people who need to go to jail and quigley. you're right there have been number of arrests. rich, there has been this tone that we have to be somewhat, everyone in this country wants people to be able to protest