basically, you're talking about essentially warehousing people, and the long-term -- steve: warehousing people? >> warehousing people in little spaces, that's what it's all about. and at the end of the day, what you're talking about is that people really want people who don't have kids, don't get married, live in these little important thing for the survival of democracy is the reduction in the number of people who are home owners. that's been dropping, here in california, it's dropped very dramatically, and particularly among young people. steve: so normally, that's presented as a crisis of affordability, you just can't afford to own your own home, is it as simple as a financial question or more to it. >> unaffordable because the policies that you have, if you talk to developers, let's say you go to texas, spend a great deal of time. developer wants to build 5,000 houses outside of dallas, he