we take our basic rights for granted, other voices fill the void. >> it's meaningless. it means nothing. what is a healthy democracy? i have never heard of an unhealthy democracy. phil we are not a democracy we are a republic. at the needs to get this that straight. it's without meaning. >> laura: more people should vote, he says, when you are participating and paying attention and listening, in other words, the people who elected trump were not paying attention. were not listening. he kind of throws in well people of goodwill in both parties. again, it's a different way of saying deplorables, is it not. >> exactly. a nonvote is a vote. people choose not to vote is, in fact, a vote. voters should not be compulsed. >> laura: how do you mean that? >> they don't have a stake in the system or they are happy with the way things are or for whatever reason is that they make an active decision not to go vote. >> laura: the idea that