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f.b.i. actually started this but one of the ones that has always held was that this was not an armed insurrection. officer dunn, you mentioned that those that stormed the capitol were well-organized and trained. i'll ask all four of you. officer hodges i know it was part of your job initially before you responded to the capitol. if in the middle of all that melee you see somebody with a gun in that crowd, would you be able to go out, apprehend and arrest them, read them their rights and go through that process or was the mission at the moment survival and defense of the capitol? i'm asking is it possible that people maybe have guns and we've seen that actually there were but this idea that well, people weren't arrested with guns at the time it was raw survival. i'll start with we can just start to the left. let me ask you, what is your response to that? >> for those people who