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manufacturing, per perishable. the president was put between a rock and hard place. rescue the economy by undercutting the leverage of some of your biggest supporters or do you leave it and hope that it works out, you know, he tried to do both. now we are here right up against the deadline and congress has had to intervene. >> brian: just a quick question where is our transportation secretary? isn't this his area of -- that he should be focused on? shouldn't he be taking the lead on this has he been personally involved. >> he has been involved. labor secretary and tom vilsack has been involved. they have all had a hand in this. it's a tough issue. litigated since 2020 by the way. this contract is this issue is a couple years old and have to be rehashed again in '24 when it comes up for renegation. >> steve: all right, jacqui, thank you very much.