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to stay in the race. >> everybody does, bill. you think ron desantis needs another victory? >> bill: when we get a chance to interview him, we'll ask him the same question. on the issues, where do you disagree? i looked at the abortion case, you favor allowing states to determine this. i think donald trump is on the same page as that. he was tough on china. you want to be tough on china. the wealthy would not receive social security checks. so maybe there's a distinction there. but if you're on stage with him, on august 23rd, all right, you have an opportunity in front of millions of american people to say here is how i will be different. >> he's a failed leader. we gave him a republican house, republican senate and he failed. he failed us, bill! and he failed us by losing the house, by losing the senate and by turning over the white house to joe biden and the most liberal administration and effective administration since