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vice president mike pence at the debate over his foreign policy. what do you say what he said about regarding israel? >> look, it's the latest thing he said about israel. what he does, john, he says something, he gets roundly criticized and practically laughed at over some of the stuff he said and then he says i didn't say that. i meant this. this is not the kind of person you want sitting behind the desk in the oval office, whether it's on this issue, whether it's on handing taiwan over to the chinese in 2028, or whether it's his complete abandonment of ukraine and security in eastern europe. these are all things that i guess harvard guys talk about in the salons up in cambridge, but they really have nothing to do with what america needs to do as a leader to protect our values all around the world. >> john: he also said he would end the policy of strategic