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yeah long way from the end zone on this one. of course it is. trying to do to him. >> that's what i want to come to you on. okay we get sold this idea that these are our protectors. and that, of course, we've got to get trump out of the way because, you know, he's going to ruin everything. and their justification for getting trump out of the way is they can ruin everything first you dig -- you can't protect democracy by destroying is as we know and arson by burning it down but that's what they're doing so is this just desperation and not hear themselves? what do you attribute this to no >> i interviewed secretary janet what she first took office and her focus was keeping the ballot secure. that's really all she talked about in the years since she's become entirely political -- and it has become very troubling for voters who aren't democratic voters, in the state of colorado. and i think that it's having -- it's harming the system entirely across the country when they see secretary of the state who actually have part of their responsibility to hold very dear