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i think people were looking for some normality. that's my best word, normality. calm it down and work together. that's what i thought his intent was. he has been pushed to the far left. that's the only thing i've said. i don't know if it's basically you owe me because i got you elected, this and that. >> julie: larry hogan getting attention. he stepped back from his leadership role in the no labels organization. many are wondering what the moderate republican is up to next. mark meredith with more on the intrigue. this is getting interesting. mark. >> it sure is. so much of the buzz is on the likely rematch between presidents biden and trump. there are growing signs americans will be offered a third party presidential ticket. decision who will be on the ballot should come out two months from now. west virginia democrat is in new hampshire looking like a candidate himself. he spoke at a politics events in