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deboer who took washington to the national champion game, 104-12, that's his coaching record, a lot of that, to be fair, at n pix a. but his leap is interesting, from fresno state to alabama in three years. pete: you're a coaching assistant at a high d i level, he made it from the bottom up and he's -- will: he's clearly a good coach. xs and os, can he recruit the south. that's the question. pete: all right, last one for will. california proposal to ban youth tackle football for kids under 12 cleared its first hurdle. what do you think? will: look, i appreciate -- pete: look at him. [laughter] will: first of all, they say when you're little, you're belly bumping, you're not getting big head issues. pete: that's a big kid though. [laughter] will: there's usually a weight thing. like, you can't be that much older than the other kids, so maybe they've got that rule in california. [laughter] let parents make the decision, that's my talking. i appreciate the risks, whatever