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on the jury so far. i think what is most important is less about this basic data and more about how the attorneys are able to connect to each one of the jurors. they have to create that relationship from the beginning. looking for people who look in awe of donald trump. we heard some people tried to take pictures from the -- when they walked in initially. you want the attorneys and the jurors trying to create that connection. you won't ever see that on the images we just saw, the basic data. it is much more psychological. >> dana: is it good to have lawyers on your jury? >> this is a case where you want lawyers. the facts are on donald trump's side. i keep saying that and i will say that. he is an underdog but not because of the facts. the lawyers on this case will appreciate the fact that there are two layers of specific intent that the prosecutors have to establish in order to convict donald trump. that's a very difficult thing to