these criminals. bill: so you found one cave or more than one, sheriff? >> there are two caves in this area and these people, just to give you a sense, they have -- one of these ranchers has a 360-acre ranch, was flying over, and actually spotted these guys in a cave, and so all the neighbors talked amongst themselves for three days, and they debated whether they were going to call me as a sheriff because they were afraid of retaliation from these drug cartels, and then they called us and we immediately dispatched deputies, we worked with the local border patrol and ice locally and went in there and afhelpedded one of them when there were several of them when they initially saw them. bill: you took out the caves and that's been taken care of, based on the explanation, but you said the white house is to blame for that. now -- >> absolutely. bill: a lot of people on the outside will consider this a local crime issue and use the sheriff in that county,