is what leads to starvation and the fact that their people are under nourished and their economy doesn't function, and they have to get up every morning and ask themselves how can they keep themselves in power? that's what a dictatorial regime like that has to do to keep trying to perpetuate itself in power and don't do anything for its people. it is a tragic situation. >> greta: they are saying the reason why they are running out of food is they had a frigid winter and flooding. however, if they had a market economy they would have other means to buy food on the market. if were you to go farther down the chain. we have to make a decision, our country as to whether we give the humanitarian or hold out. what do we weigh? how do you make that decision? we give things to lots of countries that we don't have perfect relations with. >> sure. the problem is with a country like north korea to the extent