>> there's so much to talk about. and, you know, saturday morning, and we talked about this later at my daughter's birthday party, that both of us, from two different perspectives, looked at the horrifying news of saturday morning coming out of afghanistan coupled with the s&p downgrade and i went right back and i bet a lot of people did, i know you said you did, even as a young girl, back to 1979 when so many things were hitting at one time. it was -- i really can't think of another time in my lifetime where i woke up and saw a couple things hitting like that and, i don't want to say questioned america's place in the world, but certainly thought we had with lost our way. >> pretty bleak feeling. we're going to talk about the unspeakable loss in afghanistan coming up. and also, why, when -- when it will become a central part of the political conversation, when