from the beginning, this has been a fight over the facts and to josh's point, why are we fighting over the facts? because it's been put in this explosive context that does wrap hillary clinton in. it's become clear that she plans to run in large part on her record and tenure as secretary of state, if she does run for president in 2016. this is an issue that gins up the right against here. it's something that you are already seeing, republicans some of whom worked for mitt romney, ginning up opposition research, pushing out material on this subject. i spoke with john mccain last week. it's one of the first things he said to me as we discussed what he thought of her run, i don't think he plans to back down on trying to get answers from her on this. i think, in this case, both sides are working with different sets of facts. this new york times piece was laying down a marker of what they found their set of facts to