here. pay gap should be addressed pretty strongly. it's an issue even more in the minimum wage, another issue where democrats are running on where pretty much every candidate feels comfortable talking about it. it's an issue that republicans and something that allison grimes and mitch mcconnell. something that really puts the democrats on the right side with the voters, and you are hearing pretty much every candidate, obama is talking about it, joe biden is talking about it. every candidate in senate race on a -- this is one of the issues they're going to talk about through november and could be very helpful because women are becoming the largest part of the electorate, of course, and it could help in key swing states as well. >> perry, let's talk about jeb bush. he is sort of the talk of the town lately, making a little bit of news over the weekend, talking about 2016 and an issue that he cares a lot about, immigration, but in a way that you don't often hear from potential presidential candidates. here he was talking yesterday on fox news sunday. >> can a candidate run with a hopeful, optimistic message?