thought and it's not clear to me still how she put the indictments together the individual charges. i heap for the i hope for the sake of the city that she has a solid case where presumption of innocence but it's a pretty sweeping indictment and certainly the 12350ed was speed was great for the city in the sense that people have something else now to focus on. >> tom costello said people in the legal circles were surprised. did you get a sense that maybe these officers could have been charged to bring peace to the city more than what hard evidence they had to put into those indictments? >> well, to be honest in terms of the overreaching, the answer is we don't know yet about what evidence is out there, what evidence she was looking at when she put forward the indictment. but truthfully when we look at the level in the charges put together, i think people in baltimore feel confident that there must have been something there, something that she's seen that she'll be able to present