i think it's a great tim duncan for -- a great opportunity for her to talk about her story. >> i guess i would just say jess, to her middle class background, the obama campaign was very successful in vilifying mitt romney as someone who was vastly out of touch, in part because with the struggles of everyday americans in part because of his economic platform was not as focused on the middle class and working class as president. >> i think at one point, when you're talking about policies that are going to benefit the 1% at the expense of the working class, and trying to talk about how you grew up eating off of the ironing board instead of dining room table when your father was a governor. that just strains credulity. bill and hillary clinton's middle class background is real and the thing that they can talk about and a thing that helps them understand how important it is to provide the same kind of opportunity for the americans