this is where we could also be critical. if you want to learn from history, you can say, anytime you go to war, you better be prepared for it to be a lot more ugly than you might first hope. and mr. rumsfeld and others at the pentagon did not have a plan that allowed for that possibility. that's where i've been the most critical, and i think that senator rubio, for example, could have chosen that tact. >> well, the situation in iraq is a function of what happened back in 2003 and what happened subsequent to that. let me stay with you, michael o'hanlan. it seems to me they sold the war as absolutely essential because he had a nuclear weapon and he was connected to al qaeda. all the reasons we had to go in, and at the same time, like a good salesperson, the cost would be short. it would pay for itself in terms of cheap gasoline. all of those arguments were thrown in to say, not only in a sense did we go in, this is going to a jackpot for us. it's not going to be that tough.