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the economy, the more it has to do with china. >> there's going to be tension about shoring up the workplace, making the supply chain more enduring, building at home, rather than sending it overseas. when he talks about it in regard to china, there will be tension? >> of course. i think in a lot of ways, the chinese balloon, it brought to the surface this relationship and this very complicated tense relationship with china. china's been spying on the united states for decades. >> and we spy on china. >> yes, exactly. and we spy on china. we have a tense relationship about a range of issues, human rights to the economic trade craft to how they operate in technology. this is an opportunity to talk about those components of the relationship but i think the balloon is just a symbol of a very complicated and very important relationship that the united states has that is at a