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and what the reporting is telling us about what jack smith is developing, using tools that you didn't have, much more powerful subpoena tools, that you didn't have. >> yeah, lawrence, he's exactly following the path that i think we set forth in our investigation, and we put forth to america in our hearings. as you said, he is able to get information that we weren't able to get. we interviewed rudy giuliani, at length. he repeatedly asserted, in attorney client privilege. we would ask him a question, about a particular election fraud claim, specifically, whether or not he had discussed that with the president. he said, well, i can't tell you that. that's attorney client privilege. the special counsel has the ability to push through privilege claims, to immediately adjudicate them, by taking those claims before the chief judge who supervises the grand jury, in the district of columbia where this investigation is taking place. and get a ruling.