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correspondent keir simmons joins us live from london with that story. keir, so help me understand something. i -- we're all aware that the uighurs, maybe 2 million of them, were put into glorified concentration camp because china is trying to homogenize the entire culture there. i'm curious, why would they care about uighurs that escape and that immigrate to other countries? why are they so, so dead set on stopping these people out of existence? >> reporter: you know, joe, that question goes right to the key point. let me map it out like this. first, going back years, you have the chinese government accusing members of that uighur community and other minority communities in xinjiang of separatism and, the chinese government says, terrorism. then implements this policy of