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of course, one of the big reasons we're here to talk this morning is that there's all this litigation happening around the country. so, i would say it is premature for me, as secretary of state, to comments, but this topic is more and more in the news. it's a novel situation, as all of this has been, given the former president tried to steal the 2020 election and his assault on democracy has not stopped. >> let me ask you about colorado. again, there is a lot of detail in this indictment. it's not in here, but the former mesa county colorado clerk, tina peters, was indicted in your state for election tampering and granting unauthorized people access to election equipment, which is very similar to what was described in georgia. so, you are very familiar with this situation. what do you make of this? how widespread this tampering is? it's not what donald trump alleged, that there is a bunch of democrats going going and doing this. everyone in the country charged