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crazy bs that comes out of trump's world. and he takes it back in. so there is this symbiosis here, that we can't lose sight of. it's part of the food chain. so yeah, laura's on the plane. of course she is on the plane. i'd be surprised if she wasn't on the plane. the reality is, we need to beat less surprised and understand how all these things fall and to place to set up what will be a very difficult contest this fall for the american people. these symbols matter, you know. having this connection with her matters to trump in ways that will matter for him at the ballot box in november. >> i agree, julián, there should be very little that surprises us at this point. we have to hold that truth, at the same time you hold that none of this can become normal. we can't look and say this is normal. it's part of the challenge we've been talking about, which is what happens in iowa. this isn't normal, this isn't just a horse, right candidates vying for the same thing. no.