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to even his own son being held to account in the criminal justice system. >> i think that's a fair contrast supported by a lot of the evidence people know. then you have the politics around it. you just described the justice department process, which is supposed to be independent. the special counsels do that. at the psalm time, hunter biden is an individual who a as mentioned is being repeatedly attacked in every which way by the congressional process and trying to get him to testify is part of that legislative political branch process. ed reading from some of the reporting on this, where you're in a bind either way and don't want to be overkoord nating with the president, in which they can't discuss issues. this is reporting from the "new york times" on that whole thing. it says basically biden, the younger son andis legal team, which includes this very