maybe 15 or 20 people. they have service together on sunday. a motivating factor for a lot of christians is they don't like the idea of when they get money it's going for a big building, that it's going for a lavish lifestyle for a pastor. they don't like the way the pastors are living their lives. do you think something like this will feed what is clearly a growing trend across america, which is home churches? >> that's right, chris. i understand why home churches are growing, but what you're describing there is not really a church, it's a bible study. the bible gives the definition of a church. there's an authority structure in the church. there are pastors, elders and deacons. the church is not man's idea, it's god's creation. just because there are bad churches that don't have accountability, like apparently this church should have pad in place, it doesn't negate the whole idea of the church.