people here. something like the days, willie, when we first had allen sheppard and john glenn go, when your father was down here with us. and we had those sort of crowds then. but for the last one, you'll probably see a million, million and a half people trying to get inside the fence, see what they can see. >> is there a sense of nostalgia for a lot of the people who have worked inside nasa for so many decades who helped bring about the shuttle era, now seeing that chapt ber to close here within the next month or two? >> yes there is. and these people who launched today, launched this magnificent spacecraft which is now separating from its external tank. it's in orbit. its engines have caught off. everything is fine. but the people that launched them today, willie, unfortunately, will be losing their jobs in the next month or two. they had, at the time that they started, made the announcement