the ministry of silly walks. but i think olympia snowe will be in a side room at least initially. then she'll be part of it. she's part of it because as congressman grayson was saying, she's gotten an inordinate role in this because of the mathematics of the senate and because of the way the administration's approached this. you made a great point earlier, which is rahm emanuel said at the beginning of this process, remember he said let's never let a good crisis go to waste. that's one of the reasons they pushed health care to begin with but they haven't dealt with it or negotiated about it in crisis mode. they've negotiated as sort of backroom poker style and that's another reason why olympia snowe will be at that table. >> the candy aide statement from mr. reid and the later one from mr. reid, mr. baucus and mr. dodd that makes the same point tonight about needing 60 votes, about crafting a bill that can garner 60 votes and then said his caucus would go on.