That does it for me. Thanks for watching. Ill see you back here next week at 5 00 p. M. Eastern. Right now its The Sunday Show with jonathan capehart. History tomorrow, donald trump becomes the first former american president to face the jury of his peers in a criminal trial. Thats just days before the Supreme Court considers the claim of president ial immunity. It is a decision that could be a game changer in legal efforts to hold him accountable. Here to break down the monumental week ahead. New world order, now that the house has finally passed aid for ukraine. Well take a closer look at what it will really take to keep putin and other autocrats in check. Retired general and former nato commander wesley clark is here with his advice for the president. And the state of the race. A new nbc news poll will show bidens Approval Rating inching higher and his race against donald trump thats getting tighter. Nbc mark murray joining me live to discuss the story behind the numbers. Im jonathan capehart. This is The Sunday Show. Tomorrow we will see something none of us has ever seen before. The criminal prosecution of a former american president. For the first time donald trump will face a jury of his peers in a case that could carry prison time. Trumps hush money and Election Interference trial could be the ultimate test of the rule of law and the nature of the accountability in this country. In less than 24 hours, the prosecution and the defense will deliver Opening Statements in front of 12 members of the jury and six alternates, laying out the evidence for and against trumps guilt. Thats in spite of multiple lastditch efforts by trumps team to delay the start of the trial. As a reminder, trump is charged with falsifying records. The Manhattan District Attorney accuses trump of interfering in the 2016 election, by disguising payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels to keep quiet, her allegation of A Pass Sexual Encounter with trump as legal expenses. Trump has pleaded not guilty and denies any wrong doing. He says hell testify in his own defense. Tomorrow, the judge will decide how he could be cross examined if he does take the stand. During Jury Selection last week, angry and Defiant Donald Trump would try to make his case to the only cameras allowed, outside the courtroom. Here is a taste of the hallway press conferences. This case should have never been brought into america. It is called legal expenses, what youre suppose to call it. And all the legal experts, they are saying how this is not a case. The case is ridiculous. And this is another one where the case is ridiculous. The judge will have to take off the gag order where it is very, very unfair that my Constitutional Rights have been taken away. Prosecutors say trump has already violated his gag order at least ten times, including sharing a comment on social media calling jurors, undercover liberal activists. Weighing in on the gag order tuesday, fining trump for those posts. And thats not the only threat to trumps finances this week. At a hearing also tomorrow, the new York Attorney general will seek to cancel trumps 175 million bond in his civil fraud case after questioning whether the company that issued the bond has the money to cover it. If the judge agrees, trump will have just seven days to secure a different loan or have some of his assets seized. But looming over all these cases is the Supreme Court, which will finally be here on thursday. Oral arguments in trumps claim of president ial immunity. The question at issue here is a fundamental one. How much can a current or former president get away with that the rest of us cant . Make no mistake. If the High Court Rules in his favor, it could derail all legal efforts to hold Trump Accountable for his actions. Alter the rule of law, and change the nature of american democracy. Trump has clearly been a little obsessed with all of this. Posting online about president ial immunity more than a dozen times this weekend alone. Trump will be stuck in new york during his Supreme Court date, but expect the legal team to bring the crazy even without him. As you may remember, trumps attorney told the Lower Court A president can be immuned from prosecution even for ordering a murder. A president who ordered Seal Team Six to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached would be subject to criminal prosecution. If you were convicted first. So your answer is . My answer is qualified yes. And just let sink in. An argument that would let a pr get away with murder. If that is up. Joining me now is the former prosecutor who is an nbc legal analyst and host of the Justice Matters podcast. Also with me, mark joseph stern, Senior Writer for slate. Glen, mark, thank you both for being here. Mark, youre here at the table, so well start with you. You were initially skeptical of the Manhattan District Attorneys case, but you have come around. Whats changed her mind about the importance of this trial . Well, you know, over the past year i think Manhattan District Attorney alvin bragg and his team have made an extraordinarily strong case that this really was a Felony Offense under new york law. That it wasnt just a misdemeanor involving some kind of low level recordkeeping crime, but that it was tied in fundamentally to federal and state laws involving Campaign Finance and Election Interference. Thats why had District Attorney bragg has made such an effort over and over again to say this is not just about a porn star or hush money, but Election Interference. Thats an important point. Were all watching these cases about 2020 get stuck in the lower courts, not go to trial. This is the first to go forward. Theres been a temptation to say this one doesnt really matter. Its not a big deal. But the fact it is fundamentally about honest elections and whether trump can break all the rules that apply to everyone else. I think that matters. It really raises the stakes here. I was sort of convinced this was the right time to bring these charges and the right charges because the District Attorney shows if trump is found guilty of these offenses that he truly did conspire the state and federal laws. Thats a serious offense, and he should be held accountable. All right, glen, youre the former federal prosecutor. Were you also skeptical of this case, the Manhattan District Attorneys case . I was really not all that skeptical, jonathan. When you see the mountain of evidence, okay, this is coming from the former career prosecutor, i understand. When you see the mountain of evidence that has been amassed against donald trump. When the folks who are suspicious of this sort of quality of the evidence in this case go to things like well Michael Cohen was lying. Of course Michael Cohen was lying. In large part to try to protect donald trump and keep him out of hot water. But its not the question of whether a witness lied previously that will convince a jury about the strength or weakness of the case. Its whether they are telling the truth now and whether they have corroborated with things like Covert Audio Recordings of donald trump and Michael Cohen conspiring to commit the crime. Check with hard evidence like documents, reimbursement checks that donald trump was writing including out of the oval office. You take the weakness and you turn it into a strength because you would talk about the motive for lying, which was to help his former boss. Im not all that concerned that if the jury will follow the evidence and applies the instruction of laws as they give it to him. I am fairly confident that they might end up convicting donald trump and they might do it in a new york minute. And glen, they have had to worry about their identities being leaked. A couple have been asked to be removed from the case. Might we see other jurors asked to be dismissed . It is inevitable that we will have other jury bumps along the way here. It is not that unusual when we would send them home for the night that they will come back the next day hearing the Opening Statements. And they are like you know what, i came up with some reasons, some concerns. I might not be able to sit. Thatll happen all the time. Then early on in the process, the judge, if those reasons are valid, they can dismiss that juror and replace that juror with an alternate that i will have a lingering concern because there are only six alternates that are seated. If we would have an unusually high number of jurors who will feel like they want to get off the jury and maybe, you know, they are feeling uncomfortable or they have been gotten to. Ive had that happen over the years. I hope that six is enough and i trust that six will be enough . You know, mark, Maggie Haberman of the New York Times writes people close to trump are anxious about how he will handle having so little to do as he sits there on weeks on end. It has been decades since hes had to spend so much time in the immediate vicinity of anyone who is not part of his family, his staff, or his strong of admirers. What kind of impression is trump making with the jury . He has made a poor impression with the potential jurors so far. We know he has looked hostile and aggressive as jurors, they have paraded before him, saying their true feelings about the former president. This is manhattan. Many of those feelings are far from positive. A lot of these potential jurors have criticized him, saying things to his face that he has not heard in person for many years since he is so insulated from the criticism. Jurors pick up on that and they pick up on Body Language and on muttering. They will take it as a sign of untrustworthiness that they might have something to hide. It is not going to play well for him once that actually goes to trial this coming weeks. Hey, glenn, what do you expect on the Supreme Court hearing this week . And so jonathan, im not so concerned that the Supreme Court is going to say a president can commit any and all crimes against the people of the United States and violation of the federal laws and do so without complete immunity and immunity from prosecution. I have a greater concern that they are going to be so interested in what they will call Outer Perimeter immunity, which is not a thing in the criminal law, but it is a thing in the civil law. You know, they may conclude that well if there are some Outer Perimeter crimes the president commits. Maybe he should have immunity for that and the only way we will know whether any of what donald trump did, should enjoy Outer Perimeter immunity is to send it back, to hold all kinds of hearings on whether some of what he did might enjoy some Outer Perimeter protection. Then it could come back to the Supreme Court. Then we can definitively resolve the case. The reason why im concerned about that is it will eat up so much time. Donald trump may not be tried until who knows, 2026. Glenn, speaking of eating up time, im going to have you come back because the whole idea of Outer Perimeter immunity, demands its own segment. It will defy logic to this here. But glenn kirshcner, mark, thank you so much for coming back to sundays show. Tomorrow, tune in at 10 00 a. M. Eastern for special coverage of Opening Statements and Donald Trumps new york criminal trial. And then at 8 00 p. M. Eastern, Rachel Maddow and team will break down the latest in this case tomorrow at 10 00 a. M. 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