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ALJAZ UpFront February 10, 2023



people in need. the united nation says another 5300000 people might be homeless inside syria, roma. i swear we don't know what to do with us. let a few days pass. we don't know what i'll do. we don't know what will become of those who died level, but those who stayed. may god help them, there's nothing to say. life is over obama. those will let me. we all know and right now we're waiting here. let's see what happens. everyone is trying to escape somewhere, but after all, this is out, we can't go anywhere. meanwhile, a 2nd un, 8 convoy of 14 trucks has crossed into rebel hel parts of syria. after an initial 6 on thursday went through the syrian government is approved cross border. a deliveries to rebel held the areas now at least 2 people, including a 6 year old child have been killed in a car attack in the occupied west bank policy and driver rammed his car into people waiting at a bus stop on the outskirts of jerusalem near an illegal is re settlement a 30 year old driver was shot dead at the scene. for palestinians have been arrested. russia has launched a new wave of missile strikes on energy infrastructure across ukraine. keeps as it shot down, most of them, but the eastern city of zap, morisha suffered its worst attack since the war began with 17 missiles striking in the space of an hour. officials of urge residents to seek shelter, millions lost power in the immediate aftermath of the strikes with several energy facilities said to have been hit. and in the eastern democratic republic of congo, tensions had been running high around the town of sika after the army pushed back in advance by am 23 fighters. our soc is located in the east on the main road that connects the country 2nd biggest city goma, where the capital can char, sir, congolese army and the m 23. our group has been fighting in the area since monday, prompting thousands of people to flee their homes. what most the headlines this i we're going to bring you on going coverage of the situation after those multiple earthquakes and both took here and syria upfront is a program coming up next the american people have spoken. but what exactly did they say is the for a whole new border with america in it? is the world gender, on the decline in america? how much the social media companies know about you, and how easy is it for, manipulate the quizzical look us politics. but bottom line, when the taliban retook control of garrison a year and a half ago, afghans and many in the international community feared that it would mean a return to the restrictive way that the past for women and girls in the country. despite initial assurances from the taliban, women have now been borrowed from schools and universities. employment is restricted, and that was their right to access public space. so what future is there for the women of afghanistan that's coming up, but 1st, january $26.00 was one of the deadliest days for palestinians in the occupied westbank year. israeli forces rated a refugee camp in the city of jeanine, killing at least 9 people. the next day, a palestinian killed 7 israelis near synagogue and he's through sla, this comes just weeks after a new hard line is really government was warning with benjamin netanyahu. what the helm, and with the far right figures occupy and key cabinet position. so what will this mean for palestinian? that conversation next on this week? the going to me on up front are deanna bluetooth, ramallah based lawyer and former legal advisor to the palestine liberation organization. an advocate she is a human rights attorney and associate professor at rutgers university. her latest book is titled justice for some law and the question of palestine. thank you both for joining me on upfront and i'm going to start with you. 2022 was the deadliest year for palestinians in the occupied westbank in nearly 2 decades. and now with the latest round of violence this year is on track to surpass that at january 26 or one of the highest daily. they're told in years when israeli forces rated a refugee camp in jeanine, killing at least 9 people, or the following day, a 21 year old palestinian killed 7 israelis near the synagogue in east jerusalem. you're on the ground in ramallah. what do you think is driving the latest wave of violence? because it can, it's been years of the united states and other countries around the world cobbling israel, telling israel that it can do whatever on that there are no guidelines and inside israeli society itself. if you said it's okay for them to be able to kill palestinian, this is why we see not only the death toll rising, but we see the daily aggression against palestinians. these are numbers that are never reported. people are who are dying because of medical lack of medical treatment, people whose homes are being demolished, whose land is being taken. this is part of the daily violence that palestinians live under because of israel. and it's because this real can and because there is nobody who is effectively stopping every other thing to israel, that there are read minds. so this is why we see what we see. and i wouldn't be surprised if we surpassed that 2020 to figure very soon because of the fact that this is not only given they've been given the green light. but this is now also a brightening government that has also put palestinians literally in their cross here. i'm glad you mentioned this right wing government. nota benjamin netanyahu has returned as prime minister, even though he left off is facing a corruption scandal. and in fact, even today, he's still facing corruption charges. it would seem like netanyahu had a strategy of forging strategic alliances with the far, i mean, far right in order to come back into power. but since a new government took office in december, the israeli public has opposed many of his policies, such as the recent move to weaken the country supreme court and abroad. several of israel's closest allies have expressed concerns about the recent moves by far right figures appointed to the highest level positions in israeli government was a strategic on the part of nathan yahoo to empower the extreme right to regain its position. i think as goes with most politicians, the idea of self preservation, even if it means scorched earth for everyone else. i think what should be we should be most concerned about is that way that the international community is responding to netanyahu in a way that has rehabilitated him. in contrast to the moment where he was viewed very clearly as being an alignment with a suppressed racially supremacist movement in a neo liberal order and alignment with the trump administration. at which point we plainly understood him to be back. now what i also want to point out is as with many things concerning us committees, policy and israel, that there is much continuity as there is rupture in this situation. what we see in terms of the rise of the far right. and what is the most fascist government that is really seen is not necessarily new because of the palestinians and an unlimited tory policy regarding them a very violent policy that marks them for removal in order to settle jewish zionists in their place. but in this case, what the israeli government has done, and this iteration is to combine and marrying religious religiosity, to this fascist regime. and that is what most israelis are objecting to. and that is the panel for religiosity to explain that for you until you me sure. so historically, this fascist edge of zionism which has targeted palestinians for removal in order to establish uncontested diamond settlers sovereignty was secular in nature, so that it was nationalized judaism, directly or legally. but you can be a jewish national, distinct from being in a daily citizen. in this situation, the far right government want to stablish a more robust christy that targets the l g b t q. community that wants to expand, it's holding a palestinians land within the length which of religion that wants to emulate right? the story. jewish biblical stories of the annihilation of palestinians in order to manifest that. and so the protest that we see amongst israelis is less to do with the concern for palestinians or how this is the height of crisis. but more of an internal concern of what this looks like for them. and i think that the escalation against palestinians is another political maneuver that has used to deflect attention away from. what is the domestic turmoil in order to focus on this constructed threat of the palestinian netanyahu appointed to mar, been here as minister of national security? now this is a guy who is convicted of inciting racism and for supporting an anti arab movement, outlawed as a terrorist. organization and last election, the religious zionism block, which carpet has been give years, are you who did or jewish power party, made significant gains. they won 14 seats in the connecticut. what does it say about where the netanyahu government is when it's taking in extremis liter of a fringe party and putting them in a key cabinet position? well, it's not just a mob been there. it's also all of the individuals who are in that political party . actually there's a couple of 3 parties that came together. another individual demand name much more, which is the, the minister of finance. he, the person who has very proudly in his worth. you call himself a sasha hall hall again, these are his words, not mine. and this is an individual who himself has been at the forefront of tried to push for the demolition of palestinian home and wholesale ethnic cleansing of some palestinian towns in the west bank. and so you have him combined with is marvenna next year who himself again, who says that he's the follower of majorca, honey, who was one point in time dressed up as group goldstein who's a mass murderer, a man who killed 29 palestinians as they were praying at the mosque in hebron he dressed up at him for poorer and said that he was dressing up to him because he is his hero. wow. so it's the. exactly. so that's the question. why would netanyahu go into government with these people? and it's because because nothing, yeah, with no difference. and i think we make a big mistake if we somehow just say that it's, these 3 individuals are that one political party that has been pushing for the ethnic cleansing of palestinians. well, what we know is that this has been israel policy since 948, and even before that. and it's just a question of whether they're more upfront about it or less a month about it. and during the election campaign, then we're used to walk around and said and say, we need to show the palestinians, who is the master of the house. and so this is where israelis are. people who voted for him. they either voted for him because they support his message, or they voted for him because they wilfully ignored his message. in either case, the result for palestinians is deadly. nor does the new israeli government or the shift from one party to another. have any practical bearing on the lives of palestinian people. i'm thinking about something that donna said. we said there is no left wing in israel. 1 and that there hasn't been for a while if it's record in charge of is a labor party in charge if it's the minutes party, which is which it self describes leftist do any of those formations change the facts on the ground for palestinians? i think it's right to ask that question because again, the international community is responding to this bar, right? government because of the crisis that it poses for israel at its emerging and consolidating itself as a theocracy and therefore it's threatening a democracy. but there is no democracy when it defines itself as a jewish state, it cannot be a democracy when palestinian and citizens of the state are treated as at the pillar . when all the palestinians in the west bank and gaza are denied the right to vote . there is not a democracy under any situation for palestinians, and under all iterations, they are targeted for removal. they are killed with ease. they are already, they are racialized is always already a threat, a security threat. they are regarded as terrorists and can be killed and assume guilty until proven innocent, and the fact that they can be killed with this greater ease. and we've taken zionism to its most extreme logic and still seeing that the media discourse has not changed. and still seeing that the international community has not responded with, with sanctions on israel, but instead there have been rewards. there is a clear irony here that rather than be punished, they are somehow being rewarded and coddled, which is an extreme moment for palestinians to realize. well, at what point, how much money must they suffer in order to signal a clear shift in the international community? and as this extreme government demonstrates, that line is not apparent and is not clear in the price that palestinians will pay, will continue to be far too high in moral and clearly illegal. deanna given everything that we've discussed, everything the palestinians are facing with the new government, with the threats of violence, with everything going on in the global community. what do you think is the next chapter for palestinians in do you have hope? oh, it's hard to have hope and i'm a person who always does and the reason it's hard for me to have hope is because as much as i am hopeful and proud and happy that i see the boycott movement taking off and people really understanding what israel doing at the same time, i live a different reality, a reality in which at any moment, i, my family, my friends can be killed. i think back to last year of may of 2022 during not just during the year, but during, during may when a friend of mine, a journalist showing up with kill, she was cut down and her yes, has probably been the most investigated death. i've ever seen, and yet here we are. we're coming up close on the one year anniversary of sheen's murder. and nobody has been helped to account. so while i am hopeful and i really am happy, all of the work that people are doing around the globe to push to hold israel to account at the same time and very acutely aware that that the pressure that's being exerted on israel is not strong enough. and change is not happening quickly enough and it says that fear that you live in both the fear that at any point in time you can be killed or injured or whatever it is. but also the fear that it's going to be lasting for generations to comb. that leaves me with a sense that we are, are we, where are we, how has this been allowed to fester for so long? why that is really use are going even shifting even further to the right. whereas if you look locally, they're shifting to the left, their progressive values. why is this the case? and i firmly believe it's because of the fact that israel has been allowed to get away with literally murder in a blue to note attic. i thank you so much for joining me on up front. the when the taliban reached control of afghan to stand in august of 2021, they sought to reassure afghans in the international community that the rights of women and girls would be respected and that they would remain active members of afghan society. neither a year and a half later, however, the situation for women in the country is dire. the taliban have effectively barred women and girls from secondary schools and universities. they receive their employment and they've even altogether banned their presence in many public spaces . so what does this mean for the future of afghanistan, and is there any hope insight for african women? wanted me to help answer that question is del, arise, former african ambassador to the united states and current director of princeton university is afghan stan policy, lab, adela, thank you so much for joining us on upfront. you're currently in communication with women in the country. can you talk to a little bit about what life is like for african women at the moment? thank you for raising this really important and critical question for woman off going to sun for all those who live inside the country. and as you said, and the dire situation, it truly is, it's dark, it's gray, it's difficult. it's almost everybody is trying to grasp to something that gives them hope. and that hope is getting eliminated on a daily basis. and imagine a society with, for woman education was the window of opportunity growth, space, freedom, prosperity. and that window is shut at this moment. and i want to put myself in the shoes over those women and those young girls switch for me personally. it wasn't too long ago in my life 25 years ago when i was forced. when i was enough, going to san antonio, one for the 1st time, came to power. i was among one of those women and those youngers where my window of hope was shut. and i couldn't think of a brighter day, and i wanted to when you say it was shut, you mean we had access to public space to school? yes, exactly, exactly. there was no space for woman as public that we could go. we have to be always whenever we were outside, we had to have one or 4 main family member. and i come from a family when i have 3 younger brothers. so that was pretty hard. and i also come from a family where education to matter, like to many of the families and growing up one morning waking up when your schools are closed and you're told to stay at home. i just simply couldn't process it and i always tells and people the story that there is a muslim a we have a prayer of times when we wake up in the middle of the night and we pray and we feel that that's when your prayers will be accepted the most, and i remember myself waking up quite a few nights and praying and asking for a medical for the schools to open up. right now we're seeing a very similar situation. taliban is effectively bad girls and women from attending secondary school also from attending, univers. yeah. that you are in conversation with people on the ground? yes. yes. from most of the work that we're doing, you've got some policy. love an important element for workers to be engaged with people who are inside the country with woman inside the country. because i always say, regardless of how much we try to make sure that we could reflect what life for them is. but it's extremely important to have their true voice. and through those conversations, whenever we have had with a woman in the country. and as i mentioned earlier, the element of hope is dying. it's for, especially for those women who are the bread winner for their households. when they are asked not to go to work anymore for those young girls with as i said, school was with they could see freedom in future and it's not there anymore for those young girls who are going to the university and, and they just were in last year of their universities and, and just getting in touch with them and hearing their stories that they don't know when next time they can go back to the university. that's painful. how much of that dissipating hope is connected to the fact that there was a promise that women would have x and in that it wouldn't be like both in one. 0, and now it's shifted very quickly. is, is that a big part of this? is world the kind of pivot it is it is, but um, frankly speaking with a lot of africans even then if you would have spoken, especially with woman. i think there was a very element. there was of that it was an element of pragmatism and realism because oh, we had not forgotten a win for the 1st time. tal upon war and power. and they had been de schools and woman from public spaces and working outside. so there was somehow that element of nightmare, everybody was waiting, it will arrive and, and they will go in that direction. it was just a matter of time. i think there was that element of hope still hoping that maybe they won't, but they did that. so it's now expecting that they may ever change their mind a

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