been intense and has created enormous suffering, we can all see that every single day. is it time now for you as labour leader to say enough, there must be a ceasefire? the united nations has said it, emmanuel macron has said it, is keir starmer going to say it? you describe the situation in gaza, and it is intolerable, the sheer number of deaths, particularly the percentage of those, the proportion of those, that are children. the desperate need for humanitarian aid, the fact that hostages are still being held effectively at gunpoint. this is intolerable. and i do think we need a sustainable ceasefire. the question is, how do we get there? i think the first step is, we need a truce, we need a humanitarian truce that allows the space for a number of things to happen. firstly, for humanitarian aid to get in, in much greater quantities and volumes than is at the moment. secondly, we have to have those hostages released.