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BBCNEWS Ukraine June 4, 2024 14:43:00

to leave the country, or even a suggestion that some people are worried that men of military age could be stopped from leaving the country altogether. people are concerned about that. but, interestingly, russia is trying to push this narrative that they are not just fighting against ukraine, which of course, hasn't gone very successfully. they are saying they are fighting against the west. "this is nato we're fighting it. "so no wonder we weren't able to do what we wanted to do in the course of three days." "it's because the rest of the world is against us." and trying to create this atmosphere that the west is trying to break up russia, that is theirjustification, and they're trying to to encourage people through state tv, but also through general disinformation campaign to encourage the russian people to feel like they are under threat from the rest of the world and to unite as russia together. there is a popular misconception, i think mostly on social media, that putin is the problem, that if you could get rid of, or if he could be sidelined in a coup, then somehow the whole problem would go away. i don't think that's the case, because behind him you've got other hardliners like nikolai patrushev? yes, in terms of what the possible off—ramp is, in diplomatic terms, where this goes, as to why would president putin being removed and replaced by someone else, if the russian system is based on having a strong leader,

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