>> so make it plain, what is the law? how does it read? >> if somebody is in a persistent vegetative state, in a coma, not when somebody is clinically dead. you can't say we're talking about life support, when every state in the union defines her as dead. >> do you think this will be reversed in a court? >> i don't know. i think particularly in texas, where there is this intense opposition to abortion and anything that would limit the life of a fetus, i wouldn't want to predict how this would come out. >> how can a dead person bring a live baby to birth? >> there are two categories of death. brain death, which she is, and then there is circulatory, whether you have the vascular -- >> we're talking about semantics. the bottom line is, you have a child -- because i disagree with you, jeff. a 20-week-old. >> they don't know, because they