we don't know exactly how. any sense of how the president and his team are dealing with this? >> reporter: well, i talked to a source who is familiar with the discussions inside the president's legal team earlier this evening who said during the mueller investigation they were at def-con one, tonight they're at def-contend. they claim they're not worried about the development. i will tell you, anderson, what is going on with these calls and -- between the president and foreign leaders is interesting. it's something we've been reporting on for some time. ever since the leaks started coming out -- this goes all the way to the beginning of the administration when the president's call with enrique pena nieto, the former president of mexico, leaked out. they started to shrink the number of officials inside the white house who would be on these phone calls. and that was essentially to limit some of the leaks, some of the embarrassing leaks about these phone calls coming out of the white house. i will tell you, anderson, much of these activities to shrink the number of people familiar with what the president is doing on these calls and his interactions with people like