should want to know whether the story is, you know, is fully told and whether the president and the administration did anything wrong. certainly this is something you'd want to hear from. >> certainly john bolton, obviously, the national security adviser, is somebody they would like to hear from as well. >> absolutely. they've been pretty quiet about that, how they're going to deal with john bolton, and john bolton himself has been eerily quiet, it makes you wonder how close the book deal is or whether or not there's more coming out. i don't want to say that facetiously. he certainly did not leave on good terms at all with the president. but you're absolutely right. this is, though, one of those questions about private versus public. these are depositions. they're trying to build a case just like you do in a court of law. and let's just say that morrison does corroborate what bill taylor said about the core issue, about whether or not the money was withheld -- >> that sondland had this conversation with ukrainian officials? >> exactly, which is all about spelling out, this is why we're withholding --