security aid including the possibility that john bolton thought a meeting with trump and making president trump happy was the only way it could be released but also goes into detail about some of the issues they were facing that you heard a lot about today from marie yovanovitch and that is specifically related to rudy giuliani, the president's personal attorney. at one point in his testimony, he says, quote, someone wondered aloud why mr. giuliani was so active in the media with respect to ukraine. my recollection is that ambassador sondland stated, damn it, rudy, every time rudy gets involved, he goes and f's everything up. it's something you'll hear a lot of next week when ambassador gordon sondland testifies but it also underscores in this very detailed and i would argue very damning testimony in this opening statement from david holmes that the details here work against the president in many ways and certainly that's going to be the focal of the investigation and impeachment inquiry, anderson. >> the president was asked about this conversation earlier in the week. explain what he said.