heard from other people who have a very different spin. we'll wait and see. we can speculate all we want. but we'll wait and see here. all i do know is that there's -- there was a hearing schedule for next week that has now been postponed and that to me is probably not a good sign for those who think this is going to be a banner day for the fbi. >> we'll see the report soon enough. kirsten, i want to close this with you. i happen to think "the new york times" is solid here. they have good reporters on this. we'll see the report when it comes out. this gets to the bigger problem of the spin machine that the white house has here, how they're able to create a year of questions and a year of noise about the idea of a spy within a campaign. again, when there seems to be no basis for that at all. >> right. and i think the thing is once you do that and you have somebody at the level of the president of the united states pushing this narrative as well, you really can't put that genie back in the bottle. i think the damage has been done