go back to ukraine. >> right. it's sort of a big middle finger to the people who were investigating this and looking at this whole situation, and it's putting him in a bigger spotlight. that's why it's such a head scratcher here. i think his entire tweet doesn't make any sense at all, as he we know and have been discussing. obviously ukraine has gone through a period of years of corruption. they've made some reforms. there is more work to be done. there is no evidence rudy giuliani or donald trump cares about that. that's certainly not what he's talking on. what we're all talking about and have been for weeks is the most corrupt thing that anyone has been trying to get ukraine involved. in it's all a little ludicrous. it's crazy to see that he is in ukraine. i don't know why he is there. >> i'll give you a positive of what i think is the rationale explanation, i don't know whether it's true at all. >> money? >> rudy feels like his reputation has been besmirched. he feels that he's been