you're a person of weakness. >> yeah. amanda, it's not even clear the former president will let him in his -- in his radius enough to actually kiss his ring. so i guess the closest is, you know, licking sean hannity's ring. is there anything -- i mean, it is extraordinary. it's almost an insult to the secret service who risk their own lives to kind of rush him and his family out of the senate chamber. um, for him to now kind of be pretending like, oh, it wasn't any big deal. >> listen. what mike pence is trying to do here is distract from his role in january 6th. >> right. >> his play to the potential 2024 republican voter is, hey, if you are like many of the republicans who voted for trump because of his policies but didn't like his personality. i mean, how many times have you heard that? i'm your guy. i'm the guy that kept the ship steady in the trump white house. you can count on me because, you know, at the end of the day on january 6th, i did my duty and you should give me credit for that.