>> that's largely the argument they are going with. in fact, david perdue ironically today -- i actually laughed at the statement -- said that brian kemp was responsible for the loss of two senate seats in georgia. now, of course, david perdue was one of the senators who lost. probably more blame with him. i will tell you i was talking to a state legislator right before air time who told me that he and other members of the state legislature are getting phone calls from trump supporters saying if they don't come out endorse perdue, they can expect primary challenges in these newly redistricting lines. a lot of pressure coming to bear on republicans across the state. a lot of them think maybe it's time to stand up and just not do this. >> hmm. van, i guess some democrats might be relishing the idea of kind of a divisive republican gubernatorial primary in georgia but it seems to me they shouldn't because we need two functioning parties that are law-abiding and fact-based in this country. we need a healthy republican party. >> i -- i agree and -- and what