is, on top of that, we can expect 10 to 30% of healthcare workers to get infected during that time. people who were vaccinated who have breakthrough infections and that is only going add to the burden then of trying to provide care all at the same time through all 50 states. >> so the concern is so many omicron cases that it could overwhelm the healthcare system, even as you say and dr. gottlieb pointed this out. i was speaking to a leading south african doctor this morning, who pointed out what you just said. there does appear to be a decoupling between the rising cases from omicron and hospitalizations that's not causing a corresponding increase in hospitalizations among the infected, correct? >> it's not but the difference is that when you have that many more people infected -- and remember, that in south africa, one of the things that unfortunately they had going for it was so many people had been previously infected with delta that they had a lot of underlying immune protection. right now, in this country, we know, for example, that all