act? and what would you say to those who argue that is maybe all that can be done? >> i do support reform of the electoral count act. but i don't think it should substitute for voting rights legislation. we have two challenges right now that we're confronting to our democracy. you have got a voter suppression epidemic that we have to crush. and then, you also have nullification efforts that are underway by state legislative bodies where they effectively are trying to set up the opportunity to steal elections. what's ironic here, anderson, is that republicans -- many of them, not all of them but many of them -- want to make it harder to vote and easier to steal an election. i mean, this is an incredible place that we find ourselves in. but the spirit of dr. king who, himself, confronted enormous obstacles to progress, yet persevered through them, will continue to inspire us to make a way out of no way and to eventually, hopefully this week -- but if not, eventually -- overcome.