lot of people to wrap their heads around. but explain what you mean there. >> part of it may also include that she may have had, if it was as severe as the andrea yates case, she may have believed in order to save her children, some religious belief, for example, she needed to kill them. which of course, your viewers cannot even fathom, because it is unfathomable. but depending on the state of her mental illness, she may have believed that because of this postpartum depression that is so severe. and is part of that she wants to die with them. so again it becomes important to understand, did she see this as a way to save her children from something that she believed was possibly worse for them? >> what can you make of the father's reaction? it's impossible to know what's going on in his head, but asking their public for forgiveness for his wife. >> i know we expect to have heard him say that he hated his