toolbox. >> yeah. >> talk about systemic breakdown. >> it's definitely a systemic breakdown. the interesting thing also is all of us sort of rolling our eyes thinking, how do two men do what they did with two hacksaws smuggled in by frozen meat? this makes sense, a contractor left a toolbox in the catwalk. these men accessing the a catwalk and get into the toolbox and get the tools and weapons that -- not weapons, i'm sorry. the tools they needed to make the cuts that they did to get out. >> can be used as weapons. >> absolutely. a couple of interesting things. when you look at the picture of david sweat, also, wearing that camouflage gear, we heard from the new york state police, in fact, they were using pepper shakers to throw the dogs off the scent. dogs are trained to pick up the scent of humans. also, interesting, the fact that he was wearing somebody else's