>> babak: yes, and you know what is inside except wheat? it is meat. it is turkey. this is a mixture of sugar and cinnamon. >> anthony: mmm, that's good. >> babak: you like? >> anthony: yeah and this bread is amazing. so you were how old when the war with iraq started? >> babak: i was exactly seven. >> anthony: iraq attacked and it was -- >> babak: yeah. >> anthony: a surprise attack. iran's eight-year-long war with saddam hussein's iraq is deeply, deeply felt. hundreds of thousands of iranians, many of them children, died fighting in that conflict. >> anthony: were you afraid? >> babak: we were afraid. my brother was in the front for three years out of eight and it was not only my brother. many young people like him. eight years of war, you know? with a country that is supported by many big powers. >> anthony: and it is worth mentioning, whatever you think,