>> anthony: so, you're, sort of, single-handedly making the beautiful argument that people should go against their natural instincts in the west and open up to what is, really, an entirely new spectrum of initially difficult and extremely nuanced flavors. >> fuchsia: i just -- i think chinese is the world's most underrated cuisine because everyone loves chinese food, but until recently people, you know, mainly in the west, thought of chinese food as being something very familiar and good to eat but cheap and, like, you know, a bit junky, honestly. and, um, i think that now people can see that it has so much more to offer. it's got everything from the most elevated banquet food, imperial cooking, hearty peasant food, street food, buddhist vegetarian cooking, muslim