of natural causes. >> mark, this isn't just any family here. this family was front and center during this trial. i think this jury is now very familiar with what happened to martin richard. >> his clothes were presented as part of the evidence. >> how will the jury react? they may hear from the richards in the penalty phase. how does a jury process a request like that? how could you say no to that family if you're in that jury? >> well, you know, jurors are very smart. we just saw that with the hernandez case. insight into how jurors think. they think and look at everything as will this jury. they'll give this family a lot of credit for taking on this role, this idea of forgiveness of sorts. they will take it in context with everybody else. not to diminish the loss that the other victims' families go through but you're right. losing an 8-year-old son and maiming of your daughter, you would think that these people